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Tony asked me to practice lines on a tune in order to practice playing like a horn player.

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David Friedman Wed, 05/07/2014 - 12:17

The time sounds pretty good and the eighth note feel is nice. I would think about constructing lines by starting and ending on different beats; leaving out the 1, starting on the 3rd beat, ending a phrase on the 3rd beat, etc. It'll breathe more and give your lines a bit more "air".
Right now the solo is a bit "notey". :-)


dimitris Fri, 05/09/2014 - 00:28

In reply to by David Friedman

Thanks David!
I will try it again and upload it.
I owe you kourampiedes....I didn't forget about this!!!!

dimitris Sat, 05/10/2014 - 22:45

In reply to by David Friedman

What do you think about that? Any comment about my phrasing (accents, dynamics etc.)

Thanks again


David Friedman Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:21

In reply to by dimitris

The beginning was better, but towards the middle of the solo you were back to playing quite a few notes.

dimitris Mon, 05/12/2014 - 22:19

In reply to by David Friedman

you mean overplay and not have clear lines?

David Friedman Tue, 05/13/2014 - 15:22

In reply to by dimitris

Yes, kind of overplaying. The lines were clear but they could, in my opinion, breathe more. Do another one.


dimitris Wed, 05/14/2014 - 00:47

In reply to by David Friedman

First of all I would like to thank you for taking the time to listen my stuff!
This is third try..I wonder if you could give it a try so I could watch and many transcribe it!


David Friedman Wed, 05/14/2014 - 04:10

In reply to by dimitris

Wonderful Dimitris, you're getting the idea! It takes awhile. The important thing is NOT TRYING TO SOUND GOOD, but rather to keep experimenting, listening and experimenting, listening, etc.

OK. Homework: :-)

1.Download "Drum Genius", if you have a smart phone. It's an app. It's a fantastic app with many different drum grooves played by great drummers. If you download, medium swing, fast swing, that's enough for now. If you can't download it use a metronome on 2 and 4.

2. Do another version of Ornithology

a) Try not resolving ALL of the ll V progressions; i.e. play on the ll chord, don't play on the V
chord. Then try the opposite. Play on V , not on ll.

b) Try ending phrases on the 2nd or 3rd beat of the following measure; i.e. Play in the beginning over Gmaj.7, when in the 3rd measure Gmi.7 comes, stop the phrase on the 3rd beat.
Then start the next phrase on the 2nd beat of the next measure you start on.

This is an exercise to practice starting and ending phrases in unusual places in the measure.

Record it and I'll listen.

Hope this isn't too stressful for you. :-)


dimitris Wed, 05/14/2014 - 18:07

In reply to by David Friedman

Thanks so much David!!!
I will do all this and will hopefully post during the weekend!

It's not is over and I can practice whatever I want hahahahahah

dimitris Tue, 05/20/2014 - 00:49

In reply to by David Friedman

video 1 is version A:
video 2 is version B:

This is an interesting concept! I think I heard Chet Baker using the root chord or scale or 2min7 (g-7 in fmaj7) before he actual lands on fmaj7. Also in eflat7 you can play either f-7 or eflat7. correct???

thanks David

David Friedman Thu, 05/22/2014 - 04:02

In reply to by dimitris

OK, I listened to both videos. To be honest, I didn't hear much change in the first video, except for the fact that you played clearer motives. Good.

In the second video:

1) you played with more space. Good,

2) you came in on certain beats and left out others. Good.

3) You played on almost every V chord, resolving your lines. Not so good, in terms of this exercise.

4) When you went back to the top of the form you generally played something on the the first beat of the first measure. Not so good.

I'm being very picky here because this is a rather sophisticated concept and you're a talented and extremely motivated player, so I'm not just automatically saying, "Great, Dimitris, next tune!"

So, are you up to making another video or two?

!) Try not to resolve every line, which means not playing on every V chord.

2) Maybe we didn't specifically talk about this before but when you reach the end of the form, try not playing on the first measure when you go back to the top. This makes the form a little vague for the listener, which is good.

3) Try the exercise with a playback of some kind, Aebersold, self made with Logic, band in the box, etc. Or even with a live ensemble.

Keep up the great work! I'm on my way to St. Petersburg for a gig tonight but I'll be back on the 26th. I'll just have my Ipad with me and unfortunately I don't think I can watch videos on Vibesworkshop with an Ipad.


dimitris Thu, 05/22/2014 - 07:23

In reply to by David Friedman

Honesty is what I want from you David. That's why I keep posting stuff because I don't know everything!
I will work again these concept. Just give me a couple of days because I am traveling back to Greece and I probably have the videos ready next week. It is a good timing since you are also busy.

Thanks again for your honesty and your time.
We talk soon!


Patrice Thu, 05/29/2014 - 03:27

This is serious stuff here ! I take that for my own practice. Is the site made this for ?
Thank you Dim and thank you Dave !