What Kind of Sticks Are These?

I love Stefon's sound. I want to get a set of those sticks. Anyone know what they are. (Of course you guys do!).

What kind of sound does Stefon have? Definitely not soft, right? Is that glassy, or milk bottles as Gustavo calls that hard sound.

How would you describe Stefon's sound. I dig it!

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He uses the Stefon Harris mallets from Vic Firth. Those are the big red ones that I let you use that you said you wanted to buy. They are also the same mallets that Mike Pinto uses (except his are rewrapped). -Joe Doubleday

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these are yellow. wtf

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I'm pretty positive that they are red. There is yellow trim. I am color blind though, but usually with blues and purples and reds and oranges. They are the ones in Steve's video-Joe Doubleday

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no way. did you go to this link and look at his mallets. i hope that's the problem because they are YELLOW. right???

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Naw. I'm an idiot. Those mallets are yellow for some reason, but his usual mallets are red. I didn't even realize there was a link...

-Joe Doubleday

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i've always seen him with yellow mallets.

so no one knows what the yellow mallets are?

what's strange is, joe, i thought when you showed me his mallets at my house that they were yellow. jeez. guess not huh?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bfZVFL7mxc

Its a pretty sweet solo too

I love Stefon. My favorite Vibe player.

-Joe Doubleday

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Usually the Firth M-36, which are the ones I demo'd in that video...But I've seen Stefon use various other mallets. I agree his tone is great - "very full, with body."

I don't know if any of you ever saw Harris live. I have seen him, two or three times, and always had to wear earplugs and cover my ears.
I got a set of those mallets; they came as a freebie with a vibes I bought. Yes, the sound is warm and round at a soft dynamic level, but the articulation is very poor, not clear at all, particularly with a band. Now, as soon as you dig in, the sound goes to the extreme opposite, VERY hard, piercing and thin, as the core is very hard. Obviously Harris must like that.

I personally like more variety of color, as wide a spectrum as I can have. I like the roundness in my sound at all times and the ability to get the most out of the bars without hurting my ears. I also like a clear, articulate sound at a soft dynamic level.

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Gustavo Agatiello

i like a 'crisp' sound when i'm playing with a quartet or quintet or larger.

i heard stefon in an outdoor concert and his mallets sounded great. and he sounds great on cd!

a more round sound when it's a smaller group.

the only thing is, you can use whatever mallets you want but you have to cover the gig whatever it is. i've seen too many vibe players on gigs with mallets that didn't cut the gig. i couldn't hear them. so i think anyone can say whatever they want, but if you can't be heard then your mallets ain't cutting it. at least for that gig.

joe locke has great cds, and i love the hutch purple mallets. hutch has a great sound.

i'm excited to try ed's mallets out. they sound great on the video. i'm sure they're totally happening.

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let's hear from others about what they look for in a stick.

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I love Stefon's mallets. I use them frequently, Like when I want to be heard and I am playing without mics. I have been using Gary's mallets for a while now. They sound really really good once you get them worn in. I really like the sound of Joe Locke's Mallets as-well.

I guess the main thing I look for is a sound that I like to hear, I guess thats the most important part. I couldnt imagine practicing with mallets that I didnt like the sound of.

Being heard is also a huge factor...

Seems like every single one of the heavy vibe players uses their own mallet and has their distinctive sound (thats what its about right?)

I think the mallet you play with affects your approach to the instrument. I wouldnt play the same stuff with my Gary Burton mallets that I would play with my Stefon Harris mallets

so yeah... different stroke for different folks I guess.

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Yeah, sure, I agree. We don't all hear the same way and like the same things. I never go by the sound on a CD though. It can be very deceiving, sound processing, balance, etc. I think a mallet needs to be tested acoustically, in many rooms, instruments and different contexts. That's how we did it with Ed over the years.

Well, I think you are in for a surprise with Ed's mallets. I'd say start lifting weights... haha!
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Gustavo Agatiello

uh oh. are they heavy? is that why you said lift weights? that might mean though they have power when you need them.

i imagine their like getting a haircut, you look weird for a couple of days and then all is fine. so you would get used to the weight in time.

i think someone should see about promark giving a good discount to vibesworkshop members for a set!!! tell them we have 900+ vibe players!!! ED!!!!!!

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Once more... go to the hairdresser!!! :o)

getting the haircut this week.

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Hi Tony,

Yes, Gustavo is right, you might have to work out to use the mallets. Actually, they're not that drastic. The weight does help with creating a big sound though. That's an interesting idea about the discount. I'll check into that with Vic Firth.

Ed
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i'll buy a set and check them out. i've been moving towards lighter mallets as i get older. my joints hurt! but i want to try them!

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Tony,

Both pretty heavy (for 4 mallet playing) and power when you need it. You'll need to get used to the weight, but it's manageable and a good trade off. I think this will be like an unusual hair cut for you, and will probably need more than two days to get used to them.

Ps: It's Vic Firth, not Promark. I think it's a great deal at $80 for a set of 4. These will last a long time.

Gustavo

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Gustavo Agatiello

well i will get a set.

but still, i think you should talk to your buddy, and let's do a cool sort of promo here on the site. whether it's raffle off a couple sets, or whether it's have a discount for VW.

we have some clout now, there's 900+ of us. if they gave a good deal for VW members, i'll email everyone and tell them.

just an idea!

every haircut is unusual for me. i hate them. maybe a 1 month special.

just thinking out loud and having fun.

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I'm sure two mallet players will like these mallets as well.

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Gustavo Agatiello

When is the last time you had a haircut? haha-Joe Doubleday

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but i'm going wed or thursday.

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We want a picture of it just leaving the place!
Sharon! Help us!!! :o)
- M

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