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Ok, just start playing around with Autumn Leaves. Just play it and find stuff. Sit at the piano. Play just the bass movement. Play the bass movement and guide tones. Check out the patterns in the melody.

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Marie-Noëlle Tue, 06/21/2011 - 05:03

Pff... this lesson is too hard for me! So I started messing around with the melody (good old method). First with the metronome. Then without. First rough practice Tape...

Marie-Noëlle Tue, 06/21/2011 - 05:23

In reply to by DanaSud

Thanks Dana! Btw beautiful Etude of yours! Hey, I have a day off and my annual gig tonight (with vibes this time!!). Where are you? On which European beach are you lying?!!! ;-)

toddc Tue, 06/21/2011 - 10:28

I've looked at this tune a lot.
This is the first time I realized the 2-5 is major then minor in regard to the key signature.
I guess you just need to step back a little to get a better view.

Just to reiterate my understanding of what Tony said:
There are only three sections to this tune:
1. The first 4 of A section (major),
2. The second four of A section (minor),
3. The first four of the C section.

The B section is the A section but going from minor to major.
The C section adds the 3-6-2-5 to a minor A section and then ends on a minor A section.

The Marines say semper fi.
Vibeworkshop members say simpli fy

I love it when Tony does this stuff!
Then he throws in the chromatic fourth thing at 12:30 and you go...I've heard that sound all my life. And my Swiss cheese mind keeps turning into solid cheddar.

Mark McCafferty Wed, 06/29/2011 - 02:13

I'm pretty new to the site, but I wanted to get more into this and improve my playing. I have the melody and chords memorized--Tony's explanation about the ii-V-I's really helped...Stepping back helps as well!

Anyway, I've been trying to put the chords and melody together when I play the head, with limited success; though more success than when I work on transposing the tune...That's pretty difficult for me, and something I've never done without writing out the tune and chords. Here's a video of my attempt at Autumn Leaves.

vibraman Wed, 06/29/2011 - 02:39

In reply to by Mark McCafferty

hi mark, cool that you posted this video.if you want to improve that´s the best way to get help.i´m no pro but i would try to practice with a metronom or any kind of accompaniment like band in a box just to be sure you are right on time. if you solo it´s sometimes difficult to follow if you just play lines so maybe put yourself in a box and play the bass note of every chord first. this might help. just my thoughts. and welcome the posting site :)


Mark McCafferty Wed, 06/29/2011 - 10:20

In reply to by vibraman


I hear your nome comment--it was late last night, and I forgot to put one on. Also, I'm still working on the chords with the melody, which is most of the reason for the stutters in the head. I really need to play that, very slowly, many more times! I'm also trying to get into the transposition thing, and that is kicking my butt!

Marie-Noëlle Wed, 06/29/2011 - 11:04

In reply to by Mark McCafferty

But you're an "old" member of more than 2 years! So as Tarik said: welcome to the posting side of the site! Appart from the time that is indeed hard to keep when soloing, you have great ideas!
What's the instrument you're playing on? And... what is this "big beast" in the front of the room?
Keep posting!!!
- M
PS: what's the instrument you're playing on? And... what is this "big beast" in the back of the room?

Mark McCafferty Wed, 06/29/2011 - 13:44

In reply to by Marie-Noëlle

The instrument in front of the vibes is a marimba... 4.3 octave, padouk wood, but it might be hard to see with the video quality, as well as with how dark my basement is!

As to the instrument...well, that's a story.

I had just finished college, summer of 2008, and had moved back to my hometown, and was looking for a vibraphone to practice on and improve my skill(?), and ran across a posting about a vibe on craigslist. The guy wanted $300, and I thought that was a steal; until I saw it...In a storage garage with a base drum sitting on top of it, pick ups (later learned factory installed) that were installed half missing and all of the wiring bad/gone. I almost passed, especially since the resonators and frame were...there, which is still the best I can say for them. Then I noticed that the lowest F had a faint trademark that read "Deagan 594 Chicago USA." I paid cash and took them home! Removed the remaining pickups, only a few were still attached, played a musical show with them, and sent them to get tuned by Doug Demorrow, who did a great job, for a great price!

One of these days I will rebuild the frame to something more all packs onto a Rock n roller (thanks for the idea tony!!!!!!saved my back!!!!) but it still is not the greatest...and squeaks more than any other vibe I've ever played on...

As far as a member, I joined a while ago, read some things, and then got caught with working. Blah. I'm now actually trying to learn something from the site!

Mark McCafferty Wed, 06/29/2011 - 18:07

In reply to by Marie-Noëlle

Neat! I suspect we are not the only ones with adventurous vibes! Wish I had a motor and controls... No such luck right now, but maybe later!

Mark McCafferty Wed, 06/29/2011 - 14:04

In reply to by tonymiceli


I've been starved on what and how to practice these charts--I have done some of the stuff that you posted about, and will record it in a bit and put it up for criticism. I've read about others, but it's different reading about something, and actually hearing it explained; I feel like I just got a private lesson! I definitely recognize, especially after listening to myself, that I get too caught up in chord tones and lots of notes, and end up leaving melody, and sometimes music, behind. I'll have something up later today with some of these concepts worked in, if I can!

Mark McCafferty Wed, 06/29/2011 - 18:04

In reply to by tonymiceli

Here's another attempt, hopefully with some of the ideas Tony is talking about. Obviously still needs work, but I hope I'm on the right track? Trying out different options on the computer--this is just an mp3.

Also, sorry about the air conditioner...just like all of my percussion instruments, it too is located in the basement.

vibraman Wed, 06/29/2011 - 18:29

In reply to by Mark McCafferty

wow what a progress in such a few hours. i can clearly hear the tune now during your solo. great work! next thing i would do is take notice of your note length. you use the pedal for most of the time for keeping the same length for most of your notes and´s not really you use too much pedal or ringing but you could try to use the pedal to get more differences in the length or even use some chords and notes without pedal to make it more interesting. but you are more then just on the right way. it sounded much more structured to me.keep on the good work and let us hear.


Marie-Noëlle Thu, 06/30/2011 - 01:55

In reply to by vibraman

And don't worry about the air conditioned in your basement: we sometimes have Tony's washing machine from his!! ;-)
- M